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recording .ser from streams 3 months 3 weeks ago #25466

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Last night I had some really solid seeing, so decided to do some streaming and recording of the moon. I clicked the record button at the top of the streaming window, and some .ser files were written out. I had played with these before, so knew to go to either Siril native, or Autostakkert in Wine. The problem is, nothing will load the files I captured. I cannot get a single image out of any of them, just a black screen or horizontal lines. I checked to make sure the programs were in mono mode (using a mono 1600 pro) but still no luck.

I was wondering if anyone else has tried to capture .ser with 2.9.5? How did they turn out? For those more experienced with this than I, what might I need to check?

Here is the file information for one of the files. Some of the information seems off for a mono camera such as the 9 GRBG... all programs want to use this header and turn on debayer by default for example.

ser\indi_2018-04-24\indi_record_2018-04-24@03-11-59.ser
Filesize: 229447970 bytes.

Header Details:
* FileID: LUCAM-RECORDER
* LuID: 0x0
* ColorID: 9 (BAYER_GRBG)
* LittleEndian: 1
* ImageWidth: 624
* ImageHeight: 508
* PixelDepth: 8
* FrameCount: 14
* Observer: Unknown Observer
* Instrument: Unknown Instrument
* Telescope: Unknown Telescope
* DateTime: 23/03/0118 22:11:59.094616 (0x00836c1d555a9170)
* DateTime_UTC: 24/04/2018 03:11:59.094655 (0x08d5a99124869af6)

Timestamps:
* Timestamps are in local time (Should be in universal time)
* Timestamps are all identical
* Min timestamp: 29/03/0230 01:14:43.807667 (0x0101010101010101)
* Max timestamp: 29/03/0230 01:14:43.807667 (0x0101010101010101)
* Min to Max timestamp difference: 0.000000 s


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Jim

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AT115EDT and 8" Newt for the light
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Last Edit: by xsnrg. Reason: added .ser information

recording .ser from streams 3 months 3 weeks ago #25468

I will check recording today with ASI camera.

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recording .ser from streams 3 months 2 weeks ago #25605

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Hello Jasem, did you happen to have chance to try recording and then using .ser with ASI?

One other question I have, tonight with the moon nearly full, it is quite bright. I am using a little ST80 pointed at the moon, and I cannot get the ASI camera adjusted to expose fast enough for the video to not be completely washed out. It seems the exposure for streaming is tied to the frame rate, and the maximum rate I can tell it to try to achieve is 30. Give the exposure, I would need to set it to about 120 or more to make the image dark enough to use. I realize I cannot get 120fps from the camera at full resolution, but even at 10fps, is there a way to do a .001 second exposure per frame?

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recording .ser from streams 3 months 2 weeks ago #25610

Jim,

I tested with SER and it worked with ASI. But for the FPS issue, I think a better property would be stream exposure value so that it can be controlled at will.

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recording .ser from streams 3 months 2 weeks ago #25612

Ok it's in GIT and should be in nightly later tonight.
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recording .ser from streams 3 months 2 weeks ago #25623

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Thanks for the quick modification, Jasem, I will try it as soon as I am able. As for the .ser recording, I am able to create the file, but when I go to load the frames into any software, it is as if they are note encoded correctly. No image is visible and some of the frames have lines. I have tried loading them under both windows and Linux, and in siril, and in stakkert. Your files had proper images in them?

I am uploading a small one to drive for anyone to look at. Here is the link: drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4I8Ucuo...WYklBQ28?usp=sharing

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Moonlite focusers for the sharpening
AT115EDT and 8" Newt for the light
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Last Edit: by xsnrg. Reason: added link to ser folder with zipped .ser created on the 24th

recording .ser from streams 3 months 2 weeks ago #25627

Yeah, can't see anything in there. Can you record SER in any other driver? Simulator? V4L2? ..etc?

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recording .ser from streams 3 months 2 weeks ago #25632

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the .ser from the simulator appears to work fine. I recorded a .ser and was able to use the frames in siril without problem.

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ASI 1600 mono/color mains with ASI290MM in off-axis
ASI filter wheel
Moonlite focusers for the sharpening
AT115EDT and 8" Newt for the light
Fedora Linux, 100% INDI

recording .ser from streams 3 months 2 weeks ago #25666

So I recorded against from ASI120MC and it all worked fine.. the only format that didn't work was 16bit because I couldn't capture any 16bit to begin with. Even raw 8bit bayer worked fine and the SER player showed the frames in _color_ just fine (when they appeared monochromish in KStars). The only thing that didn't work was color OGV recorder. Grayscale worked fine, so I had to work on color support for a bit and got that working. Of course, SER is a better format IMO when compared to OGV since SER is lossless.

All this tested on my desktop PC, but I can test soon on StellarMate but doubt if that would make any difference.

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recording .ser from streams 3 months 2 weeks ago #25668

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I have only tried with the 1600, will try the 290

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AT115EDT and 8" Newt for the light
Fedora Linux, 100% INDI

recording .ser from streams 3 months 2 weeks ago #25674

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the 290 and the 1600 work well when directly connected to my laptop. The way I have been trying to record the clips is by pressing the record button on the viewer when viewing remote.

The ASI is attached to a NUC at the scope running INDI and I am remotely streaming to another computer watching the video without any problem. It is on this remote computer I am pressing the record button. I will try to record some frames using the INDI control panel instead of the record button on the viewer and see how it goes.
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Moonlite focusers for the sharpening
AT115EDT and 8" Newt for the light
Fedora Linux, 100% INDI

recording .ser from streams 3 months 1 week ago #25824

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Last night I had some nice skies, so I tried recording .ser again using my remote setup. I am having the same problem. When directly connected, it records usable files, when remote and hitting the record button, the files end up unusable like the previously attached one.

NUC on scope, remote is a PC, both with latest INDI/Ekos/kstars. Go to streaming in control panel, start watching the stream, stream looks great. Hit record button on stream viewer, no joy.

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ASI 1600 mono/color mains with ASI290MM in off-axis
ASI filter wheel
Moonlite focusers for the sharpening
AT115EDT and 8" Newt for the light
Fedora Linux, 100% INDI
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