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TOPIC: Items from last night's INDI/Ekos/Kstars session

Items from last night's INDI/Ekos/Kstars session 2 months 2 days ago #20072

I know I probably should not jump into this thread, but, it's long overdue for me to say my piece concerning QHY and Linux. For many years, QHY and I have been very close friends, and during those years, I have suggested and pushed for QHY to develop Linux drivers for the various cameras which they created. This has always met with direct opposition because QHY believes that Linux represents a small portion of the user market.

Because of this lack of support from the top, this has always been a luke warm or volunteer approach. For those wishing to use QHY cameras on Linux, I offer this direct quote: "Hi Dan,
we will update the INDI driver ASAP after finishing our current Macos support, we are working on.
Yes, there probably is issue related to run multiple cameras with the current driver/indi, so it is in my
TODO work on that.

Please note, this was developed by another programmer, so we have to rework that.
Sorry for that problems, "

So, I will say this regarding INDI with QHY cameras. Users should use multiple softwares in order to guarantee use of separate QHY drivers. For example: Run KStars with a QHY primary camera using INDI. In a totally separate desktop, run Lin_guider to control a QHY or Orion Guide camera which uses the CCCD firmware driver. You will find this separation works, although total KStars is not achieved.

INDI is a slow mechanism at best when controlling multiple simultaneous tasks. When operated on machinery with limited capacity and multiple USB devices, care should be taken to isolate critical USB pathways in order to prevent traffic collisions. And while I must admit, I have not examined the exact data buss of a Pi2 or Pi3 with regard to serial communications, I have found on the ODroid, that one of the USB serial ports is being shared with the LAN interface. Such design compromises must be considered when making wiring connections.

Dan
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Items from last night's INDI/Ekos/Kstars session 2 months 1 day ago #20074

Elfe wrote: just wanted to add some of my things from my last imaging night
- while doing flats with a wall mounted box my eqmod controlled mount was enabling guiding (I could understand dithering but not guiding while doing flats on a wall position)
- after doing flats the ekos interface was switched to lights but when capturing a frame it actually tried to run a flat frame (going to wall position) - I guess that it somehow did not correctly cancel a strange 2000s exposure in indi and failed to sync the switch from flat to light to indi (after stopping and resetting everything it was working as expected) I probably have to reproduce that to give more helpful feedback
- while imaging and using the internal guider my rpi lost connection from ekos to indi twice (kstars running via vnc and ekos doing everything locally) The second disconnect happened while switching the view in kstars. (probably kstars was busy and delayed ekos too much)

I need to remember to create logs by default.


Yeah logs would be helpful, check my signature for how to.
Jasem Mutlaq
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Items from last night's INDI/Ekos/Kstars session 2 months 1 day ago #20075

Quite frankly, I've had the exact same answer from QHY like a year ago and gave up. I switched to another manufacturer and couldn't be happier.
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Items from last night's INDI/Ekos/Kstars session 2 months 1 day ago #20077

Hello supernov,

what kind of device do you use now instead of QHY? I think i will also sell my QHY cameras and will never go back to that brand.

Thanx
Robert
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Items from last night's INDI/Ekos/Kstars session 2 months 1 day ago #20078

More expensive, but totally worth the cost; a Lodestar X2. Earlier version is also fine and besides it being amazingly sensitive in comparison, the drivers are behaving great as well. Not to be totally negative about QHY, many use those cameras and have no problem, but for me I noticed (even under Windows) that it was the last part of my setup that wasn't behaving like it should. And support is almost non-existent especially if you're using Linux, which I get to a certain extent, but that does mean I was gone as a costumer and will buy brands that have a better track record in that regard.
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Items from last night's INDI/Ekos/Kstars session 2 months 1 day ago #20092

Hi Dan,

that sounds interesting to me. can you be more specific about your setup?
pls report as PM if not of general interest.
Robert
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Items from last night's INDI/Ekos/Kstars session 2 months 1 day ago #20094

As I mentioned in the other post, we have operated using KStars and Lin_guider for several years. We utilize LInux Mint 18 with a Mate desktop. The observatory equipment consists of an AP1600GTO, Celestron Edge14, Apogee F8300 camera, Robofocus, Atik Filter wheel, and Orion guider. As mentioned in other posts, Orion guide cameras are manufactured by QHY for Orion. The QHY INDI drivers work fine as long as appropriate VIDPID values are respected. Control is accomplished using a Dell Desktop with Intel I-7 processor.

I have a QHY2, QHY5, QHY7, QHY8, QHY9, QHY11, and QHY5L-II series cameras. I can definitely tell you for certain, multiple QHY cameras and the QHY KStars INDI driver do not work properly and should be used with caution. My present testing involves using a QHY5 guider, QHY9C camera and a QHY5L-II all sky camera. They all are recognized by the driver, however, imaging immediately results in driver issues.

There is, however, alternate software to operate QHY cameras with Linux. This site may be of interest:

github.com/OpenSkyProject/OpenSkyImager

Dan
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Items from last night's INDI/Ekos/Kstars session 1 month 4 weeks ago #20124

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An item from tonight's testing:

- the ASI EFW does not save its Filter labels.

Please help correct.
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Items from last night's INDI/Ekos/Kstars session 1 month 4 weeks ago #20125

You saved config after you set the filter? I should probably make it save them on set anyway.
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Items from last night's INDI/Ekos/Kstars session 1 month 4 weeks ago #20126

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Hi Jasem,

Yes they were saved on set 1,2,3 times.

Another item I just noticed, the PHD2 guiding is not updating on the summary screen It used too. It is not clear what I need to change.

Thank you
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Items from last night's INDI/Ekos/Kstars session 1 month 4 weeks ago #20131

They check if the files under ~/.indi are owned by you and not root.

I'm closing this topic since it diverged into many sub-topics. Please open a specific topic for each issue.
Jasem Mutlaq
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