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10Micron Mount Modelling

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Replied by Michael on topic 10Micron Mount Modelling

Hi,
first 2.5 branch does not support indi, it will be available on MountWizzard3. You saw videos from alpha versions of MW3.
Actually automating the process is exactly what MountWizzard3 does. Just one button press and you get a new model in your mount. There is a remote shutdown feature build in in case you would like to close all programs remotely.
The point is if you are doing model build, especially outside, there is the need of manual interaction for polar alignment necessary by turning knobs. So this can't be automated (at least with low effort).

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Replied by dolguldur on topic 10Micron Mount Modelling

Ok thank you, then I will wait for version 3 to be released.
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Replied by Michael on topic 10Micron Mount Modelling

Hi,

after having some late tests under real sky, I put MountWizzard3 beta0 online.

Some notes about this package:
- It is beta ! Thankful I had the support for testing in alpha time from Barry, Hans, and Willem-Jan, but still there is a limited sight of different environments.
- My software is far from perfect and never will be. So and feedback welcome. Please add the log file and screenshots / videos etc. if you found bugs.
- MountWizzard3 should be able to install an run in parallel to MountWizzard2.6 release. But please choose a separate working directory!
- As it is now multi platform, the distribution folder has now three entries: Two EXE (one with command console open) for Windows 7/10 and a tar.gz file for
Mac and Linux. Still if you want, you could install it directly in windows, when you have python 3.6.5 32 bit installed. On windows this improves loading time.
- It does not support connection via driver, so you have to have a ethernet / IP connection to your mount.
- The documentation is as well on GitHub. Please have a look to this. I try to complete all the things, but give it a try. Some functions could be seen on the sneak preview videos.
- The software is as is: Please take care and use it on your own risk !

- Please report back in GitHub under Issues.

Now finally where to find it:

github.com/mworion/MountWizzard3-DIST

Hope you have productive nights,

Michel
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Hi all,

I got now a MAC App build for MountWizzard3. So installation in OSX becomes very easy. Download the mountwizzard3.app.zip from GitHub and unzip it to your working dir. Just double click starts the application. No python installation needed anymore !

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I looked up the price of a GM1000 HPS :ohmy: :ohmy: :ohmy:
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Replied by Brent on topic 10Micron Mount Modelling

so does the Ekos mount model feature now build a 10micron model or not ?

thanks
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I’d love to know how to model inside Ekos. It looks like most of the features required are in the internal alignment Subsystem. When it builds points I can’t get it to honor my horizon masks. I also can’t figure out the driver workings… there’s a model building section in the alignment tab.

My main issue is Astap/astrometry aren’t as robust as the internal solver. The result is I need excessive exposures (30s) before I’m polar aligned and the mount won’t track well enough before that to allow for the exposures required. But, the internal solver works great. If I could do a small model I could swap over to MW4 to polar align using this model.

My guess is this feature died with MW4 supporting INDI.
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Replied by Hans on topic 10Micron Mount Modelling

> I’d love to know how to model inside Ekos.

I still propose you use MW4 for that.

> It looks like most of the features required are in the internal alignment Subsystem. When it builds points I can’t get it to honor my horizon masks. I also can’t figure out the driver workings… there’s a model building section in the alignment tab.
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> My main issue is Astap/astrometry aren’t as robust as the internal solver.

Oh ? Maybe I can help there. For model building a good signal to noise ratio can be easily reached with strong binning, like 3x or 4x. And downscaling the image as well, I've tried up to 6x downscale and found 4x donwscale works well for my setups (F/12 and an F/5.4 systems). With this exposures of about 4 seconds suffice.

> The result is I need excessive exposures (30s) before I’m polar aligned and the mount won’t track well enough before that to allow for the exposures required. But, the internal solver works great. If I could do a small model I could swap over to MW4 to polar align using this model.
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> My guess is this feature died with MW4 supporting INDI.

This confuses me. Do you think something got removed from MW4 or from Ekos ?
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Replied by Hans on topic 10Micron Mount Modelling

> so does the Ekos mount model feature now build a 10micron model or not ?

Not afaik.
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I was reading the original threads before MW3 existed. I think you were working on it weren’t you? There’s the alignment tab in the driver and it was supposed to use the IAS to build a model.. but I can’t find any directions.

With narrow fields of view like my C11, the internal solver is significantly faster than ASTAP. I can plate solve in 10s with Ekos… ASTAP requires 20-30s to generate enough stars and is super sensitive to focus.

But, if that tab should be deprecated… that’s fine too.
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Replied by Michael on topic 10Micron Mount Modelling

Hi,
my two cents to sort some of the questions out:
- MW3 used a interface to astrometry.net online for solving
- MW4 removed this, because of the long solving times and added the support of the local astrometry.net solver provided by ekos. This support is still there, but on some platforms (MAC) the binaries were removed (I think when stellar solver started).
- MW4 added the support of ASTAP as this solver is available on all platforms.
- I would love to support the internal solver, if there is any binary to call from external on all platforms. So far Rob had a lot to do to make the internal happen. Perhaps there is the opportunity to make this happen in future. (DBUS calls are unfortunately not the solution)


For the solving topic:
My experience is that all solvers work fast if they get a reasonable starting point to search from. The internal one is very efficient as it could solve on multiple threads (so it is somehow a brute force attack :-))

Michel
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