Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'KStars 2.8.1 "Hipster" release is out!' in the forum. 1 hour 55 minutes ago

I don't see any Mac-specific driver problems in that terminal output. When we had problems with the Mac build in the first couple of months, it was generally related to dylibs not being present or required files missing. These problems were revealing themselves in the terminal output. That does not appear to be the problem here. The terminal just said a child process died, though it did give more information as to when it happened, it did not reveal why it happened, since I don't think the output directly before the statement that it died has anything to do with it (but I could be wrong).

So yes, I would try what Jasem said, maybe it will reveal more info.

Hopefully it gets solved soon.

Thanks,

Rob

PK wrote: Here's the log from the terminal, following your instructions.
The Connect green light is on, but the scope does not respond to any commands.

File Attachment:

File Name: TerminalSavedOutput.txt
File Size: 71 KB


PS: I want to use EKOS for photography and KSTARS to control the mount. I had thought that if I can't get KSTARS to work, EKOS will not be much use.



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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'KStars 2.8.1 "Hipster" release is out!' in the forum. 2 hours 6 minutes ago

The reason I was asking is because I actually have never connected my mount with device manager. I have always just used Ekos. But yes, this has been useful in this case since you really don't need to connect a camera or to get Ekos all started up just to check if the mount connects properly.

PK wrote: Here's the log from the terminal, following your instructions.
The Connect green light is on, but the scope does not respond to any commands.

File Attachment:

File Name: TerminalSavedOutput.txt
File Size: 71 KB


PS: I want to use EKOS for photography and KSTARS to control the mount. I had thought that if I can't get KSTARS to work, EKOS will not be much use.



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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'KStars 2.8.1 "Hipster" release is out!' in the forum. 14 hours 2 minutes ago

Peter,

Are you planning to use KStars for Astrophotography or just for controlling the mount? If you want to do astrophotography you will want to use Ekos which is the dome button on the toolbar. If not, then your method to connect using device manager is fine.

To run the test I mentioned in my other post, running indi from the command line and connecting to it "remotely" from kstars, you can use this interface instead of Ekos but you will need to follow these steps after you do the steps I posted before to get the indiserver started.

0. Follow the steps in my other post to get the embedded Indiserver started from the command line.
1. In device manager, click the Client tab (not the Local/Server tab
2. Click the add button.
3. Type a name you will use to remember this host.
4. For the Host, type localhost
5. For the port, type 7624 and then click ok.
6. Click, connect (in device manager)
7. When the Indi control panel pops up, click Connect.

Now a lot of stuff should be printing in the Terminal, basically it is everything the driver is doing. Save or copy that transcript.

Thanks,

Rob

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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'KStars 2.8.1 "Hipster" release is out!' in the forum. 3 days ago

PK wrote: Thanks Rob, I'll try this. Question: You stated I should "connect to a "remote" indiserver called local host."
Can you please break that down into specific steps? I had been simply selecting Device - CEM25 from the Device Manager and then choosing "Local" and then "Run Service" since the scope is attached to the same computer. How do "connect to a "remote" indiserver called local host." from the device manager?
Thanks again for your help.


Ok, I was assuming you were starting it up using Ekos. In Ekos, you can either start an indiserver or connect to remote ones which could be running on your Mac or some other computer.

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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'KStars 2.8.1 "Hipster" release is out!' in the forum. 4 days ago

Hi PK,

The log you posted is not detailed enough to help diagnose the problem because the issue is probably with an INDI driver not KStars itself. Thus the KStars log does provide useful contextual information but won't identify the problem. What we really need is a log of what the driver did. A simple way to get all of the feedback about what the driver is doing is to start it from the command line and then just use KStars to connect to it "remotely." Here are some instructions:

To try to run the indiserver from the command line:
1. Open Terminal.app
2. Right click on KStars.app (wherever you installed it) and click on "show package contents"
3. Navigate to the Contents/MacOS/INDI folder
4. Go back to the terminal and type "cd " in the terminal.
5. Drag the indi folder to the terminal window, it should type the path after your "cd". Hit enter.
6. Now you are "in" the indi folder in the terminal.
7. Type the following command exactly as it shows in the terminal:
./indiserver -vvv ./indi_ieq_telescope

The driver should start up and the terminal will display all of its messages in detail. Then you can startup KStars and connect to a "remote" indiserver called local host. Then when you try to use the telescope, all of the details should print in the Terminal window. You can then save the Terminal log or copy and paste any relevant parts into a text/word document.

Thanks,

Rob

PK wrote: I downloaded the updated version and I still get the same error, and cannot connect a CEM25 to Stars with OSX. Everything starts up fine, until:

[2017-08-19T17:01:58.412 PKT INFO ][ org.kde.kstars.indi] - CEM25 : "Time and date updated. "
[2017-08-19T17:01:58.414 PKT INFO ][ org.kde.kstars.indi] - CEM25 : "Site location updated to Lat 33:37:00 - Long 73:05:59 "
[2017-08-19T17:01:58.561 PKT DEBG ][ org.kde.kstars.indi] - INDI Server: "Child process 1140 died"
[2017-08-19T17:01:58.561 PKT DEBG ][ org.kde.kstars.indi] - INDI Server: "2017-08-19T12:01:58: Driver indi_ieq_telescope: stderr EOF"
[2017-08-19T17:01:58.562 PKT DEBG ][ org.kde.kstars.indi] - INDI Server: ""
[2017-08-19T17:01:58.562 PKT CRIT ][ org.kde.kstars.indi] - INDI driver "indi_ieq_telescope" crashed!



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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'Solver fails consistently' in the forum. 1 month ago

kbahey wrote: @gbeaton, @rlancaste

I am also seeing that PAA never completes. It takes the 3rd image, completes the solve, then just hangs there with the 'Capture' button greyed out. Or the entire KStars will crash sometimes. I see this with the CCD simulator and telescope simulator, so not a driver issue.

I reported this here .

Meanwhile, the regular Capture and Solve works fine, with the Sync action, all that works fine.

PAA was working fine until around the 4th of July or so.

Also, I see the same thing regarding WCS: if I disable WCS in the solver options and in INDI, but still the code tries to do it, and the code crashes in a method called loadWCS, which points to where the issue may lie.


Yes, Jasem made a change to wcs so that it does not always load when an image is loaded, but instead is loaded when needed. This also broke a couple of the methods that I had written, but I have since corrected them. I dont have much experience with the polar alignment helper, maybe Jasem can help.

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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'Solver fails consistently' in the forum. 1 month ago

Vox45 wrote: Thank you for your answer.

(1) "The -O option is required in Ekos since the -o option overwrites the previous solution files and if that were not included"

-> what I meant is that when I open the "edit solver options" the checkbox for the -O is not cheked, yet the option appears in the option line. This is odd and I was wondering if this is to be expected, maybe some kind of refresh needs to happen ?


The -O option is supposed to be a disabled checkbox that is permanently checked. That one and the noplots option. Is it not that way on your system? I can take a look and see if that was changed recently. You should not be able to uncheck it.

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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'Solver fails consistently' in the forum. 1 month ago

I can answer a couple of these questions.

Gbeaton, i dont know about any issues with the polar align function, since I use my polar scope, but i can say that sometimes there can be problems plate solving near the pole. It can help to try a couple of locations a little farther from the pole.

Also gbeaton, yes offline solver is often much faster and more reliable than the online one but requires tweaking. Once you get its settings configured well for your system, it can often solve in even less time than the 4 seconds you stated.

Vox45, ekos uses the astrometry.net software which i do think is what astrotortilla uses. As for the missing options, you could try them out and see if they help. Astrometry.net has lots of capabilities and options, no Ekos does not have all of them built in as checkboxes but they can still be used in ekos by typing them in the options line in or tested by running it from the command line.

The -O option is required in Ekos since the -o option overwrites the previous solution files and if that were not included, it would fail to solve the next image since it cannot overwrite. And the noplots option is required since ekos does not use the plots produced and they just take more time to produce.

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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'KStars 2.7.9 is released!' in the forum. 2 months ago

gbeaton, I did a fresh build of the kstars DMG with the latest version after you reported an issue. This may have fixed the problem. Please test this one and see if it works any better than before.

Thanks,

Rob

drive.google.com/file/d/0B_ivMJINsdQ8RVV...djA/view?usp=sharing

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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'KStars 2.7.9 is released!' in the forum. 2 months ago

Hmm, Looks like something in indi was changed. I will look into it. "dyld: Symbol not found: __ZN4INDI13DefaultDevice9ISNewBLOBEPKcS2_PiS3_PPcS5_S5_i". Meanwhile, yes, just reinstall the last version right over top of the new one. Thats no problem. I am keeping a copy of all of the OS X dmg builds that I do so I can go back to an old one just in case. Here is the last one that I built before the current one. Hopefully we can see what is wrong and I will build a new dmg.

drive.google.com/file/d/0B_ivMJINsdQ8cGt...RlE/view?usp=sharing

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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'Solver index files won't install' in the forum. 2 months ago

I think I know what might have happened. Those are two of the largest single file downloads. Below the 4208 set, the files are broken up into multiple files due to their large size. Can you download 4107? I suspect the download is timing out because it took too long. I programmed a timer in the downloader so that it doesn't keep on trying to download massive files when there might be a dropped connection or some other issue that won't let it finish. With the timeout feature, you can try the download again if it doesn't work. But I guess if your internet connection is too slow, you might not be able to get the big files in the allotted time. We might need to increase the time.

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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'Ekos on Mac OS X ?' in the forum. 2 months ago

Temmerman wrote: That's great Rob because indeed overtime the DSLR is switched off one has to kill the PTPCamera again.

What is Jasem's avatar because I couldn't find him through the search engine?

Kind regards,
Robert


He is KNRO www.indilib.org/support/community/1-jasem-mutlaq/profile.html

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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'Mac Version Minor Issue (pop-up menu text/background colours)' in the forum. 2 months ago

We thank you for the kudos on the Mac version. And feel free if you are a software developer, to get involved. The source code is freely available and we have developed a script that you can use to build the code for editing in Xcode, in QTCreator, or other editors. See this link: github.com/jamiesmith/kstars-on-osx

I haven't done much with the custom colors, other than to make the night vision color scheme work on OS X. There very well might be some issues there because it was coded for Linux and assumes the use of palettes, whereas I had more luck with the night vision scheme using stylesheets. Also I ran into a problem with the night vision scheme where certain things in the OS wanted to maintain their colors even though it is terrible for night vision. Similar problems could be encountered with custom color options because they do not make use of the stylesheets that I used to make the night vision scheme work.

Please note any issues and try to track down their cause. We are always open to changing the code.

Thanks,

Rob

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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'Ekos on Mac OS X ?' in the forum. 2 months ago

Robert,

I just wrote some code that will have KStars check for "PTPCamera" when it starts up an indiserver on a local OS X machine and then give the user an option to quit that program. This should at least prevent PTPCamera from stealing the camera and not letting you connect in the first place. We will have to see if there are any cases when it can steal the camera later on. Maybe if the camera gets turned off and back on? But anyway, this should be a start.

I sent the patch to Jasem and we will include it in the next DMG build.

Thanks,

Rob

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Robert thanked Rob Lancaster in topic Ekos on Mac OS X ? 2 months ago
Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'Ekos on Mac OS X ?' in the forum. 2 months ago

Temmerman wrote: That was the reason Rob. " killall PTPCamera" did the trick! Canon is now online!! Thank you so much! I didn't have to use any other INDI driver. Star's internal was sufficient. I guess I will have execute this command every session now.

Regarding my second problem; any ideas on the solving problems of my polar alignment?

Kind regards,

Robert


Thats a question for Jasem, since he developed that routine, but I haven't even used it. I use my polar scope to align it in the field. My scope is not permanently mounted and the polar scope is easy to use and fast. The polar alignment routine looks nice, I just haven't tried it yet.

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Rob Lancaster replied to the topic 'Ekos on Mac OS X ?' in the forum. 2 months ago

Robert,

I looked through your log file just now and saw several things. It looks like it is detecting the camera properly since it says there is 1 camera and it identifies it properly. The only error message I saw in the log file was that it couldn't claim the usb device. Do you have any other programs running that might tie up the camera?

Here is a thought, sometimes PTPCamera daemon on OS X steals the camera. Try this command in the terminal after you connect the camera but before you try to connect to it in INDI/KStars:

killall PTPCamera

You can also use Activity monitor to see the process and quit it as well if you prefer that to the terminal.

The same goes for any other programs/processes that want to steal the camera so that other programs cannot use it. But I suspect this one is the culprit because it did that to mine a few times.

Thanks,
Rob

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