Micheal Fields replied to the topic 'QHYCCD 16200A Indi problem.' in the forum. 3 months ago

knro wrote: On what OS are you on? Are you sure you upgraded to latest INDI release? Any logs?

Well since I started with a clean slate I am sure I have the latest release. I have 18.04 TS ubuntu-mate forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?t=30888&p=225146

Honestly I am not interested in continuing to test and take logs at this point. I bought Stellarmate from you (the image) but that doesn't work either on my Pi3b. I'll try back in a year and see how things are going. For now I am back to Win10.


Micheal Fields replied to the topic 'QHYCCD 16200A Indi problem.' in the forum. 3 months ago

knro wrote: Doesn't work as in crashes or something else? QHY SDK is 2.0.4?

Identical issue as before. Upon taking an exposure and downloading data the driver crashes.


Micheal Fields replied to the topic 'QHYCCD 16200A Indi problem.' in the forum. 3 months ago

knro wrote: Ok will have another QHY SDK release in about 3-4 days, so stay tuned.


I have the latest install and still doesn't work.


Micheal Fields replied to the topic 'KStars v2.9.6 is Released' in the forum. 3 months ago

I can't get it to launch after doing a install.

If I open a terminal and type kstars it responds with

org.kde.kstars: welcom to Kstars 2.9.6
build 2018-05-25T20:12:29Z
kernal ver: 4.14.43-138
Unable to find an X11 visual wich matches EGL config 9 Segmentation fault


Micheal Fields replied to the topic 'QHYCCD 16200A Indi problem.' in the forum. 3 months ago

knro wrote: Try to run qhy_ccd_test and see if that works or has problems.


micron@micron-Z83-4:~$ qhy_ccd_test
QHY Test CCD using SingleFrameMode, Version: 1.00
SDK resources initialized.
Number of QHYCCD cameras found: 1
Application connected to the following camera from the list: Index: 1, cameraID = 16200A-M-0097e3105c57db439
Open QHYCCD success.
SetQHYCCDStreamMode set to: 0, success.

here it threw up a crash warning

Sorry, the application qhy_ccd_test has stopped unexpectedly
There are details in a crash report but I can not copy / paste them.


Micheal Fields created a new topic ' QHYCCD 16200A Indi problem.' in the forum. 3 months ago

I would like to share my experience with my attempts to get this to work.

I have a QHY 16200A camera with 7 position filter wheel. I have ubuntu-mate running on three devices. 1) Raspberry Pi 3b+, 2) Odroid xu4 and 3) a fanless PC called the Minix Neo Z83-4. All three devices behave identically with regards to the camera in question.

A link to the camera driver on their website is as follows: www.qhyccd.com/IC16200A.html (scroll half way to the bottom). There is a linux driver there: www.qhyccd.com/file/repository/latestSof...atestEdition.deb.zip

Here is a link to their forum where an SDK for Linux is available: qhyccd.com/bbs/index.php?board=21.0

Under Profile Editor I selected QHY CCD in the drop down. For mode I select "local"

Under Logs I select "Verbose" and "File" and under Ekos I checkbox "INDI", "Capture" and "fits"
I also checkbox "CCD" and "Filter wheel"

I then "start INDI" and it shows QHY CCD 16200A-M-0097e3 in the tab.
I am presented with three tabs under. Main Control, General Info, Options.

Under OPTIONS I do the following:
Polling I leave default at 1000ms. I click the "set" button.
Debug is enabled. I leave it alone.
Under simulation it is disabled. the bubble is white. I click on disabled again and it turns green.
I skip config for now
Under snoop devices I leave them alone. Next to filter it shows the same details of my camera I mentioned before.
the bubble is green so I leave it alone.
Under debug levels everything is checked except Driver debug, alignment subsystem and to log file so I check all of them.

The diaglog box below says the following as of now:

2018-05-20T16:14:31: [INFO] Session log file /home/micron/.indi/logs/2018-05-20/indi_qhy_ccd/indi_qhy_ccd_16:10:28.log
2018-05-20T16:10:28:[INFO] Debug is enabled

I now go up to configuration and click "save"
The bubble turned green

Under general info it shows driver info.

Exec: indi_qhy_ccd
Version: 1.8
Interface: 22

Back to the main control tab:

I click connect. The dialog window displays the following:
(time/date): [INFO] Connected to 16200A-M-0097e310c57db439.

Nothing happens. The bubble is yellow. I wait a few minutes. Still nothing.

I click the disconnect button. Suddenly the main control window is populated with information.

The connection button is green.
The "connect" button is selected (but I had clicked disconnect??)

Expose is white
Temp is white but working. I can see the camera temp. Right now it is .02 and falling. Default set is 0.00

Cooler is selected

Cooling power is yellow. Currently says +23.92%

USB speed is white. Default is 1. There are only two options. 1 and 0. I click "SET" and the bubble turns green.

Gain defaulted to 0. I select "1" and click set. The bubble turns from white to green.

Offset is 140. This is correct. I click set and the bubble turns from white to green.

I go back to temp and click set because the bubble was white. So now it is green.

But after the camera connected (after I clicked disconnect) I now have more tabs.

Under image settings tab:
The frame bubble is white. The boxes are left=0, right =0, width = 5120, height=3696.
The boxes to the right are all zero. So if I click SET it will make the bubble red. Which I did! Darnit now I have to re-enter the values. I do so and hit set. Now the bubble is green.

Binning is default 1 x 1. I change this to 2 x 2 and click set. Bubble for binning is now green.

Image type is default raw. I click raw and image bubble is now green.

Frame type: Light is default. I click on light and bubble is green.

Image Info Tab:

Max. Width 5120
Max. Height 3696
Pixel size um: 6.00
X: 6
Y: 6
Bits per pixel: 16

Nothing I can do to make the bubble turn green. It is white.

Image Data box says INDI DATA STREAM. I don't know what to do with that. There is a checkmark. Hovering over it I get a pop-up help that says it enables binary transfer to kstars. I am not sure if I should leave this checked (default) or uncheck it.

WCS tab:

Default is disable. Bubble is white. I click on disable and it turns green. No idea what WCS is. Mouse over does not pop up a helper.

Streaming tab: I click the default (stream off) and leave the rest alone. This is a CCD camera and it does NOT do streaming.
NOTE: when clicking Stream Off button the bubble very quickly flashes yellow but goes back to white.

Filter Wheel tab:

Filters are mis-labeled by an insane person. Who makes filter #8 a luminance filter and not filter #1? Regardless it doesn't matter for this experiment so I just click "set"
The filter bubble went red.
2018-05-20T16:35:16:[ERROR] Error updating names of filters.

Maybe I need to change them to remove the error.
I change them and click set. Still get the same error.

Regardless I select the default of filter one and click "set".
I can NOT hear the filter wheel moving but after a shot period of time filter slot bubble turns green.

I go all the way back to OPTIONS TAB
and I click save configuration.

Now back to Main Control. I set the duration in Seconds for the exposure to 10 seconds. I click "SET"
I can hear the shutter on the camera click

I can hear it click again to close the shutter.
I see an error message pop-up on my screen.

Kstars detected INDI driver indi_qhy_ccd crashed. Please check INDI server log in the Device Manager

At this point my camera is locked up and can not be used or detected again without a power cycle.

I close the window, disconnect the camera using button only it refuses do do anything. Disconnect doesn't work.
I manually turn off my camera. That seems to work except it pops up a second QHYCCD window now. Now it says QHY CCD 16200A-M-010104

So strange.

I close out everything.

Turn camera off again.

Reboot the computer

Turn camera on. Re-launch ekos

Start indi. Connect camera. I click it several times. Nothing happens. I click disconnect and it connects... Same as before.

First thing I check is the filter wheel. It shows the updated names I selected. I don't dare click set so I leave it alone.

I go back to main control.

I enter 10 seconds into duration. I click set. I can hear shutter open. 10 seconds goes by, message pops up again saying driver crashed.

Now I want to try one thing and remove the checkbox from kstars

I again have to turn off the camera to make it disconnect from ekos.

I close everything down and reboot

I turn the camera back on and restart kstars

I click "disconnect" to get it to connect. (shaking my head)

I open the Image Info tab

I uncheck the box on Image data = INDI DATA STREAM = enable binary transfer from this property to kstars and visa-versa.

I go to options and save configuration.

I go back to main control and set exposure duration to 10 seconds and click set.
I hear the shutter open.

Yet again I get that pop up message that the driver crashed.

Attached the log file.

Please help!


Micheal Fields replied to the topic 'QHY CCD filter wheel' in the forum. 3 months ago

Yes I can confirm that after setting it all up to test. Unfortunately the camera driver itself doesn't seem to work with this camera. The driver crashes when trying to take a photo.


Micheal Fields created a new topic ' QHY CCD filter wheel' in the forum. 3 months ago

Setting up ekos profile where I am selecting my equipment. This was after doing a full install of all 3rd party according to the directions on the site.

Under the filter drop down I don't see my camera's filter wheel listed. I have a QHY 16200A. For ASCOM there are two drivers. One for the camera and one for the filter wheel. Since you have a drop-down for filter wheel I figure there needs to be a driver there for that.

Or am I missing something?


Micheal Fields replied to the topic '10Micron Mount Modelling' in the forum. 7 months ago

This is excellent thank you. When or if I ever have clear skies again I will try this.


Micheal Fields replied to the topic 'Could not connect to focuslynx & my focuser not listed' in the forum. 12 months ago

I will try to submit logs soon. Thank you.


Micheal Fields created a new topic ' Could not connect to focuslynx & my focuser not listed' in the forum. 12 months ago

Last night I was setting aside a bit of time to learn how to use Ekos and Indi. I made some progress but one piece of equipment didn't connect. That was my Focuslynx controller.

On A PC with Windows it occupies COM3 and connects without issue using the focuslynx controller software. However I could not get Indi to connect when I switched it over to my raspberry pi 3.
I did a scan ports and it found a port but I don't understand if there was something else I was supposed to do? Everything was "green" except the connection bubble. When I clicked connect it tried for a few seconds and then gave me an error asking me to make sure it was plugged in and turned on. Which of course it was.

Also just as an aside here, my specific focus motor is the Feathertouch Direct Drive motor. I have it highlighted in the attached screenshot.


Hans thanked Micheal Fields in topic 10Micron Mount Modelling 12 months ago
Micheal Fields replied to the topic '10Micron Mount Modelling' in the forum. 12 months ago

Sounds really exciting. I look forward to the future.


Jasem Mutlaq thanked Micheal Fields in topic 10Micron Mount Modelling 12 months ago
Micheal Fields replied to the topic '10Micron Mount Modelling' in the forum. 12 months ago

I am going to let Michel answer you in more detail but essentially yes. The 10Micron has two states. Syncs refine a model and syncs update a model.

Starting with 3 base points which 10Micron mounts need as alignment points, much the same way that Celestron has 2 initial alignment points before you can add any more, but every point beyond the initial 3 counts as refine points. You can have up to 100 total where 3 are base points and 97 are refine points. The mount does the math internally where something else like T-Point does it externally in software on your computer. This allows the 10Micron mount to be fully modeled with nothing more than a cross-hair eye piece or DSLR with live view + cross-hairs and the hand controller.

So what these 3rd party modeling programs like Michel's does is automate the process so we can go have coffee. It slews to a base point, takes a image of the sky, plate solves it, and syncs. Since you select Syncs refine in the mount, it adds it as a new point. When you are done with lets say 45 you have chosen, you have a 42 refinement and 3 base point alignment. This is used by the 10Micron to adjust tracking. The 10Micron has absolute encoders and can make changes based on what it detects during the model. Anything that repeats can be modeled.
Sync align mode is for shifting/correcting an existing model. So if you have 40 points from the night before but maybe you rebalanced and moved your OTA in the saddle, you choose sync align and do one single plate solve/sync and it shifts/corrects/updates your existing model.

So what I am missing from the StellarMate and/Ekos etc is this ability to slew/solve/sync on a generated field of points. Where the following is necessary:
1) Software must tell the 10Micron if it is a refine point or a base point.
2) Software must tell the 10Micron if to set syncs refine or syncs align so it knows if it should be refining or updating.

Somewhat related the mount can also adjust its model and tracking based on refraction which can change when temps drop or raise. So some of these automated modeling softwars like Michel's have a way to interface with existing sources of weather information and time/gps updates and put that in the mount too. As having the correct time is important too.

With modeling and the ability to dither without a guiding I would be super excited about using this ekosystem :)

Sounds like its a maybe!


Micheal Fields replied to the topic 'Ask for non-guide dither setting in Ekos' in the forum. 1 year ago

If you consider the way Sequence Generator Pro handles this you will see it is under guiding set up where guide type has a selection called "Direct Mount Guiding" which essentially indicates the mount handles guiding itself. Then there is a dithering option that shows how much dithering you want to deal with.

Here is what it looks like. youtu.be/84UKgZs_VRA

I have been trying this out the last week and it is working perfectly.

My intention is to have all this installed on my Raspberry Pi 3 where it does everything I need so I don't have to bring a laptop. I have a light weight, low power method of imaging. Right now as it stands there are two things that are stopping me from going all-in with Ekos. 1) I need a way to do mount modeling which I am being told is being worked on currently YAY! and 2) dithering without guiding which you say you will work on at some point. Once both those things are accomplished I don't think I will need any other software to do it all.


Micheal Fields replied to the topic 'Ask for non-guide dither setting in Ekos' in the forum. 1 year ago

I would like to jump on this bandwagon as well. My 10Micron mount does not need guiding. SGP, CCD Auto Pilot, TSX all have the ability to do unguided dithering. Having the ability to do this and also set the amount of dither would be excellent. Low, medium, high, ultra-high or set by pixels or arc-seconds manually.


Micheal Fields replied to the topic 'StellarMate Astrophotography Gadget' in the forum. 1 year ago

Well the interesting avenue to persue is using Python. The Mount Wizzard modeling program is written in Python and I was just reading about INDI / Python and the Rasberry Pi. www.indilib.org/support/tutorials/166-in...on-raspberry-pi.html

So maybe the easier way to go about this is to have Michel, the developer of Mount Wizzard, put them together in some way where his Python program talks to Ekos and INDI.


Micheal Fields replied to the topic 'StellarMate Astrophotography Gadget' in the forum. 1 year ago

Unguided imaging is where it is at. That is why I have a 10Micron. To do unguided imaging you need to do a model of the sky. For very fast optics with a higher image scale you can get away with doing maybe 25 points. The max is 100 points. The way it works now is a 3rd party application communicates with SGP, MaximDL, TSX pro and perhaps others and it slews the mount all over the sky doing plate solves and syncing the image. Each sync adds a model point. Since it does it automatically you can go have coffee or do some observing while your mount models. When it is done you can do unguided imaging.

If you are in an observatory with a mount and OTA that will remain in place for a very long time this is not an issue. You would only need to do a model once and occasionally do a single sync to update the model. But if you are portable like I am then you do a model each time you set up. Therefore it is a bigger deal.

The only way I can see doing this without automation would be to manually slew to a star using Ekos then center it with the arrow keys and then do a sync. But if I did lets say 75 points to the model that will take quite a while.

Here you can see model maker in action. youtu.be/wOf2MrSJL-w?t=3m41s (This was the old and original program.)

Here is a newer 3rd part program written by someone else in Python. github.com/mworion/mountwizzard Here it is in action: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMAfZoq8rBI

Here is some discussion on Cloudy Nights on modeling with 10Micron: www.cloudynights.com/topic/569991-buildi...micron-mount-models/



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