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INDI Library v2.0.7 is Released (01 Apr 2024)

Bi-monthly release with minor bug fixes and improvements

Touptek Camera SDK Major Update

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I asked Karas about this and he said that the SDKs used by Ascom and Indi were not intentionally adjusted, which means that the measurements under Ascom are able to provide a reference for Indi to choose Logic Gain.

I looked carefully at the table you posted, and the 100Gain under LCG is in line with the HFW Off expectation.

So now we mainly need the measurement result of HFW On + LCG ON + (Optional LN OFF).

I upload here Latest Toupcam Ascom's HFW (High Full Well Mode) driver download, which is also the version build in December, it supports running sensor analysis in Sharpcap.

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File Name: ToupTekASC...2-03.zip
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The last image is the analysis we ran during the driver development stage, and the final result is fine-tuned, so it needs to be verified, but roughly speaking 1e/ADU corresponds to 77Ke Full well capacity.

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Ahh - interesting. It is almost as if extended full well mode is "super low conversion gain" mode.

I played around with EFW a bit last night, though without the benefit of your sensor analysis. I had set HCG + EFW and gain 100. With an f/6.5 scope on the Double Cluster, I tried various exposure times, up to 120s. At 120s I still had not saturated any pixels (max ADU ~58000). Of course I have no idea what the e/ADU is for the HCG/EFW combination.
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I still get crash on x86-64 but only when using RGB (RAW 16 works fine). The crash happens somewhere in libtoupcam. Incidentally, if I compile directly on my PC, I don't get the RGB crash so it's puzzling. Maybe debian packaging affects some symbols.
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Is it possible / a good idea saving temperature and heater status in camera configuration?
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If to take image with short exposure (0.01 second) indiserver will instantly send about one hundred XML like this
<setNumberVector device="Toupcam ATR3CMOS26000KPA" name="CCD_EXPOSURE" state="Busy" timeout="60" timestamp="2023-02-11T12:42:15">
    <oneNumber name="CCD_EXPOSURE_VALUE">
0
    </oneNumber>
</setNumberVector>
I don't think this is good
PS: no such problem with long exposures
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Good catch. Can you please report this in Touptek latest PR so they might take an action to resolve it?
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Hi, do you mean simply write this as comment for PR?
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Correct, or create an issue as well.
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Hm... I tried to reproduce this with EKos with no success. So it looks like the problem is only when I take shot from my client.
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Hi,

Update the recommendation for the best settings by the current version SDK.

Karas said he will later make a Python script that can run sensor analysis under LINUX. It can be used to validate this data set. And get finer discrete values. This data set can now be verified under linux using Pixinsight, and since I'm not a PI expert, if anyone is interested they can follow this tutorial: www.lightvortexastronomy.com/measuring-your-camera-sensor- parameters-automatically-with-pixinsight.html

The current Mode0 recommended settings are as follows.

HFW = On
LCG = On (By threshold AUTO)
LN = On
Gain 177
OFFSET = 700

Reasons Why and How to select:

Slightly less than 1e/ADU to obtain the best sampling, one electron converts one ADU.

Consider a limit capacity of 60ke for 16bit, and a full well of no more than that amount of RMS after deducting the noise component is available.

Consider the loss of dynamic range and keep it above 14.

Consider the noise distribution characteristics, the histogram should be closer to the Gaussian distribution.

Consider pre-addition of voltage to make all histogram values greater than 0.



2023 Jan Toup Ascom Driver (Same file with INDI 3rd)


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I recently updated my system and Touptek INDI driver seems to be changed dramatically:
- Now it takes offset between 1 and 31 only
- If does not show parameter for switching between high and low gains
- gain parameter does not switch between low and high gain as it used to be
Looks like now I am supposed to switch between low and high gain using INDI control panel.
Is this expected?
I much prefer the old way of doing things because i was able to switch between low and high gain just by using the gain value.
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I've also got the problem with offset being 31 max but I haven't tried gain adjustment yet
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