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Ron's obsy setup - Anyone connecting Indi to MACH1?

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I see Ron got his dome and shutter synced up, and tracking with the scope. I've reached that point in my configuring and wondering how to get that working on mine.
I'm using the same 1.1 version of the firmware, and LX200 Classic.
I got the scope connected and slewing, it will take some time to learn the controls, syncing, parking....etc.
The dome is rotating, but is only going less than 1/2 the speed as it did with Win7 and ASCOM with the 0.5.2.3 firmware. Is there a parameter in the code someplace I can tweak to increase the speed?
The shutter is having issues. It connects and I can see the voltage and such, but then still have the red indicator. I powered it off/on again and it opened - once. Then I couldn't connect again to close it, even with a green indicator. I moved it with the toggle wondering if the magnet was causing something, but no change.

Ideas?
Tom
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Lens cap? what driver controls that?

SNAPCAP driver works well until I left it open and upon boot up it defaults to park and closed up against the dome. (I fixed it yesterday).
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Tom, odd considering you're reading its voltage. OH - I did have some issue like that. Make SURE you're dome is UNPARKED. And doesn't hurt (I dunno if it matters) to make sure the mount is unparked and tracking.
Especially if you have the dome lock to mount settings different than I do. I have it set to ignore dome at this point I believe.

SOOOOOOOOO - last night - night 2 with Kstars/Ekos. COLOR in my b/w images, could not find how to shut it off (I got the easy answer on here today).
Then I don't see a way to adjust subs at all. But then today I thought - why not call up another viewer to monitor the subs dir. (so a solution but I was trying to eliminate multiple applications and Kstars/ekos/indi already hog 3 windows, then a fits window is 4.
They need to be integrated into one like SGP does.

plate solves are fast even using astrometry. (sold on that). SOLD on the planetarium portion. (love it) love how I can click a goto and the target appears in the sub name! (no need to enter it). or look it up like in SGP.
LOVE the WCS (just wow). so much I LOVE about it. However I was trying to auto focus and trying to guide last night to learn and was so frustrated I said "I'm done" and closed up and decided to go back to SGP.
After a good night sleep - and some logical reasoning - I've decided to continue with testing it.

Hopefully Jasem is following this.

So - my issue. I ran the simulator and was guiding fine. All made since. (I'm very good at PHD2) but prefer integration. Now with simulator out. I selected my scope and settings of...

guider: SX lodestar
VIA:? I put AstroPhysics Experimental ??????
EXP 1 sec bin 1x1
no effectss, directs all checked.
BELOW guiding rate says .5 I tried that and 1.0 which is AP's recommendation.
FL 912 (my 1216 and .75 FR) guiding data and pulse length have xxx in all of them? I suspect that fills in during use?

So... I cilck capture and a star and 'guide' and I await calibration. It does what appears to be calibration, but the movements are HUGE. I mean there isn't enough sky to calibrate one direction. (Obviously a major error in my settings?) but where?
So my scope is literally slewing 10 inches per calibration step! I have ABORT and no matter what I tried it make huge movements.
ANYONE?

So next I go to Focus. I've watched the video Jasem made (looks great) but it did 11 iterations and said complete and I'd take a sub that was grossly out of focus? Then I'm not sure what but something was binning. (the XS lodestar) and when I went to the 1600mm it seemed like it was being bin'd and I couldn't make it 1x1. Frustrated - I went to bed and said I'll go back to SGP tomorrow. But I can't give up yet this program does SO MUCH SO WELL.
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ZWO ASI1600MM Pro / ASI174M (solar) / ASI094MC
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Ok, I'll check the lock/unlock thing. I tried parking the scope and wasn't sure what it did to "park", but when I tried slewing again it said it must be unparked. I tried that and said there was something that wasn't supported with the mount or something to unpark. I didn't try rebooting the whole thing, but that probably would have worked.
I haven't gotten the scope to move with the dome yet either.
Anyone know what the difference between "home" and "park" is? I did run the dome calibration (it took a long time since it's moving slowly now) and set the home position where the magnets line up. It seems to rotate to there when I hit the home button.

Any programmers out there know where I can change a code setting to make the dome rotate in a similar speed as it did in 0.5.2.3?

Tom
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Yes HOME is at the magnet. 0 degree's. I like park there too but I believe it can be different. (park).
Mine is same. I'm running tests as I type this. I have some new video clips?
My only issue has recently been... when I parked the scope, (fine) when I parked the dome. It went to park position but the shutter was left open. I'm looking for a way to close shutter when parked but no luck so far. I'd hate to click park and go to bed and have it remain open.

SURELY I don't trust it yet to image and go to bed like I did SGP knowing if clouds come in it will close up, but getting there day by day.
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Baader F2 HS NB filters, Lodestar X2 guide camera / OAG - ZWO 290mm mini
ZWO ASI1600MM Pro / ASI174M (solar) / ASI094MC
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Unrelated question, but when you take images or plate solving shots I assume that the plats solves are sent directly from the Pi server (or whatever is in the observatory) to Astrometry.net? When taking actual images are they saved on the remote client and all the server does is control stuff?

I haven't tried the Pi yet in the observatory, I need to find a good place to mount it. Probably near where the computer is on the wall, then run cables down my conduit. I do have a powered USB hub that I'll put on the pier/scope somewhere. I'm totally wireless so I don't want to have it on the scope moving around.
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I wish I knew. I THINK it uploads from my computer (in the house) It's seamless. No lag - so dunno. You can save to local or client or both.
I only want them local (I pick?) is local - MY LOCAL? or the PI being local to the devices? Since Kstars is running on my local in the house - I assume I want local. I do see my images saved in a directory I specified. I hope it's not filling up something in the dome?

Place solves. Lets eee - they appear on my screen (local to me) so I suspect mine is uploading them (via ekos) to astrometry. So really the best case scenerio. I haven't installed the local database yet - but the online solve is faster than SGP ever was. (that little ASIair I have for my portable setup solves in under 5 seconds. (how in the heck!? ). Ilike I said I was giving up... throwing in the towel. And then realized it's just few more issues and I'm golden. The dome since the shutter connected - has worked perfectly. EXCEPT. I parked it and was surprised the shutter didn't close. I'm sure something Jasem could tweak if it's not there already. I'd also ilke a SLAVE? [ ] box easily accessable rather than buried in indi control panel - under nexdome tab, then under control tab. (lots of cumbersome clicking).

I explored focus today - no problem manually (well remote manually). No luck automatically let. I'll try again tonght. Appears to be 3rd night in a row of clear skies after 4 months of clouds.

Mount the PI? I threw mine in the drawer = ) I have a tool chest with drawers and have some scope stuff in the drawers and tools and buttom drawer has nuc. (not in use now) and PI in there with all the wires routed into the drawer. I don't mount until I'm sure I'm keeping the setup. Else the PI comes in the house and the nuc goes back into workflow. I'll give it until the end of March else I go back to SGP as I'm losing clear nights. I'm a busy beaver when it comes to software - I jump in head first and when beat - I move on = )

MY PI is "mounted" in this drawer with a USB hub, nuc PC and the cloudwatcher/solo is in there.

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EXP SCI - ED152cf APO - Celestron 11" RASA - Stellarvue 80mm
Baader F2 HS NB filters, Lodestar X2 guide camera / OAG - ZWO 290mm mini
ZWO ASI1600MM Pro / ASI174M (solar) / ASI094MC
NEXDome, CLoudwatcher, AVX mount/ASIair and Stellarmate

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UPDATE: last night 3rd "stars out" test. Over all better.

The bad:
while downloading - it seems to get lost sometimes and just runs on forever. (SGP did this on occation too). Might be my network if it's transferring a file? Not sure because the PI and devices are out... my kstars is in the house. But each image as to get from camera out side into the desktop inside. (so something has to be networked). I'm not real concerned at this point but it would be nice to know how to "GET OUT" of the stuck exposure in progress? It often timesout and takes another and that's stuck too.

Guiding was a nightmare. I kept playing with settings I don't understand and after much frustration... I got it working. But in PHD I tweak settings and I don't see those tweaks in Ekos? I wasn't guiding well, but I was... but at first there were no pusles. I kept tweaking (no idea what I was doing) and pusles started. I watched a guiding video Jasem had made and I'll go back and review that now that I'm at that point.

The GOOD
Focus - though I also do not understand it or that graph plot? - it works. (do I need to understand how?) probably not. A question (which only will get answered if I post it alone in a new msg = ( can I click auto focus any time during a series of sub captures?
I had it pick a star, crop it and resulted in HFR under 1.99 which is quite good. But unlike SGP I don't know it's settings for pixel size of star it selects etc.

DEBAYER was off (thanks for the help on that one). subs looked quite nice. I DO WISH THERE WAS A HISTOGRAM ADJUSTMENT... but it seemed to do a job that helps visually see the data. Oddly though sometimes when I click auto stretch icon I get only a WHITE screen?

Fairly good test nigt over all. EXCEPT again - I have no idea why, the shutter just closed up and (well I was tired and parked. IT happened after about 4 hours maybe 5 of working fine... scope was pointing HIGH near zenith, I was playing with guiding... and the shutter kicked in as if I had clicked close.

Well that's my blog for this epiode. I have a lot of screen shots, but I don't know if I should post them here or in a new msg. (I get better responses to new 1. question per post requests).
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Baader F2 HS NB filters, Lodestar X2 guide camera / OAG - ZWO 290mm mini
ZWO ASI1600MM Pro / ASI174M (solar) / ASI094MC
NEXDome, CLoudwatcher, AVX mount/ASIair and Stellarmate

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Here is where I'm at:
New things that work ----
Raspberry was connected into the observatory, all went together well and working.
I had my laptop in the observatory running Kstars as a client, so both were totally on the wireless and response time was good.
Tested out my new ASI120mm - mini guider camera for the first time nice image from that little thing on the refractor.
Scope pointing and sync with the sky works well. Seems there is sometimes a delay between the slewing and when it moves the crosshairs on the sky map on the screen.
Platesoving remotely with Astrometry.net is almost as fast as it was with the 9Gigs of files. Very nice! Syncing with the scope worked too.

What still isn't working: ----
Can't figure out how to sync the dome with the scope still. Scope moves, dome isn't
Even when shutter shows up "green" indicator, I had to open it manually with the toggle.
Dome rotates painfully slow.

At least my "working" list is longer than the "problem" list, so progress is being made.

Seeing Ron's video of his dome syncing and rotating with his scope appears about the same speed as mine did when I was using ASCOM and Windows.

Tom

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Sounds good - (cursor won't sync with scope) that's common in all the astro software. I don't look for them to be sync'ed because I'm in the house. I watch the scope on a IP camera and sometimes it's near real time. But most of the time there is serious lag. So I don't expect to see them sync'ed. SOMETIMES I'll wonder why the shutter isn't opening (in the IP CAMERA) and after some frustration and multiple clicks, I'll look out my window to my right and see it's wide open. (but camera is sleeping. GRRR) = )

dome with scope. I'm not sure except for what I've done. I put snooping of the dome to snoop the scope and my weather watcher.
YOU MUST click under the slave settings 'ENABLE SLAVE". OFTEN not sure if it's a bug or just I'm missing something it won't slave.
I find I must click ENABLE or disable and Enable to get it to "WAKE UP" Jasem?

I'm not sure if there is a boot order of the devices. Because sometimes the dome tracks with the scope as it moves. Other times it waits or requires I click enable slave (like each time I slew). I suspect I'm unparking out of order or something Im' just not aware of. Dome first or mount first? It tends to be 50/50 for me since I'm not making note of how I start up and unpark.

Your slow rotation is odd... it is smooth. Mine is much faster. In ASCOM we had driver settings were we could set the speed. I don't see any such options in the nexdome driver tabs. Maybe Gerry will update it and add that. ESPECIALLY after Tim has the new firmware and ascom drivers done. He's really doing a good job - he threw out the axelstepper lib and wrote his own. I'm SURE it will be great.
Then if Gerry will update the indi driver we'll be golden.

PLATE SOLVING is good (usually) I crashed adn had to reboot and my scope was totally lost. I could't get a solve to take. I tricked it. (RA and DEC hints were so far off) I look at where the scope was pointing on my IP camera. And I clicked my best guess in Kstars. I then selected "SYNC" to get the mount at least in the ball park. I then could solve. I've considered installing the solve plates for local solving? ITS NO FASTER?

Again is your toggle on the shutter reversed with 1.1 firmware? (just curious).

YES my speed is really same as before. As you know I was going to throw in the towell on Kstars/Ekos teh other night. After a good night sleep I decided to stay with it. Last night was EXCELLENT - for a couple hours of testing. I then ran into some problems trying to focus the OAG... and ran kstars on the pi in the dome so I could see the focus locally. From that point on I messed something up on the server and gong back in the house - everything was a mess. A couple of hours again and I had it back. I tried guiding... and could not calibrate. Just like my first attempt. It JUMPS several degrees and the mount stars star hopping while calibrating. I have to abort. I had that before, but it went away with some tweaks. I don't know enough about the settings to make it move the guide star a little bit. (I dunno the setting for that) which would be the calibration steps in PHD2.

I am getting use to where to click to get to teh button I need. I was really enjoying it for the first hour last night before things went south.
Im' glad I stayed with it. clear nights are gone for a bit - snowing today. I'm very excited about this whole new software functionality.
AP Mach1 / CP4 APCC & PEMpro.
EXP SCI - ED152cf APO - Celestron 11" RASA - Stellarvue 80mm
Baader F2 HS NB filters, Lodestar X2 guide camera / OAG - ZWO 290mm mini
ZWO ASI1600MM Pro / ASI174M (solar) / ASI094MC
NEXDome, CLoudwatcher, AVX mount/ASIair and Stellarmate

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I think it is perhaps best if I get to see all these things in real time. With logs, issues can be identified and fixed. I'll email you about how we can arrange this.
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Another test run last night. REALLY getting use to it. Also finding it easier to navigate if I size the windows down and leave the two open side by side. (Ekos and Indi Control) in the corners and kstars in the center. Everthing worked last night except for guiding. I asked in another post by someone else as they had same issue). Last problem to solve for me. Guiding and Im' good!

On a good note, I just won a astrophotography competition and first prize was a STELLARMATE = ) (I bought the OS last week for one of my PIs) . I had no faith. While I knew mine was he best I didn't think everyone else would think so. ;-)
and bought it.
AP Mach1 / CP4 APCC & PEMpro.
EXP SCI - ED152cf APO - Celestron 11" RASA - Stellarvue 80mm
Baader F2 HS NB filters, Lodestar X2 guide camera / OAG - ZWO 290mm mini
ZWO ASI1600MM Pro / ASI174M (solar) / ASI094MC
NEXDome, CLoudwatcher, AVX mount/ASIair and Stellarmate

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