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USB3 may force me to move off of Raspberry Pi

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Well yeah... It was a good practice/exercise...
I am staying with RPI/Stellarmate for now.

MinisForum Mini PC (surprisingly) feels slower than RPI overall.
USB3 of course is faster (10 times faster) but it doesn't make a lot of a difference.
(might get rid of the amp glow for some though)
Plate solving is also faster but not much.

Stellarmate is rock solid, well maintained and just works without much fiddling.

Thanks for helping!

Max S.

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Yes, it is smaller... Which is good.
With my recent install I was disappointed with that Atom platform though.
I was expecting a big leap in performance but didn't get that.
Except for USB3 (which is a big plus of course) - no real difference.
Will try Rock and/or Odroid and see how they compare to RPI.
: )
Max S.

RPI 4 B (4Gb) with SMate
Nikon D5500 H-a modified. Nikon D5500 stock
AT72EDII, TPO RC6
ASI2600MC Pro
ZWO ASI120MM Mini on ZWO 30F4
ZWO ASI224MC-S on Orion 50 mm f/3.2
ZWO EAF x 2
SW AZ-GTi
SW HEQ5
RST-135
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That's an interesting conclusion. I'll admit that I never tried StellarMate. I have always run KStars and Ekos on a Raspberry Pi that runs Ubuntu 16.04. And the difference in performance w.r.t. the MinisForum Z83-F is ginormous! Much faster download of images both from my ASI1600MM and from my DSLR cameras, muuuuch faster plate solving especially when doing a polar alignment. I am talking about 2 minutes per image on the RPi and about 20 seconds on the Z83-F. That is including WCS coordinate computations. Plate solving only is about 30 sec versus about 5 sec.

Well, good that you have a workable solution for yourself :-)


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You know, you are right...
When I just started I was using DSLR - RPI was painfully slow with it.
Large images and no guider/finder.
Then I got ASI1600 - RPI was slow with it too.
That was actually the reason I replaced the 1600 with ASI294.
And I do aligning/plate solving with ASI120.
RPI handles this combination pretty well.
Max S.

RPI 4 B (4Gb) with SMate
Nikon D5500 H-a modified. Nikon D5500 stock
AT72EDII, TPO RC6
ASI2600MC Pro
ZWO ASI120MM Mini on ZWO 30F4
ZWO ASI224MC-S on Orion 50 mm f/3.2
ZWO EAF x 2
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SW HEQ5
RST-135
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You now have the option of usb 3 on RPi 4.
I am currently running on Rock64. It took quite a while for all the drivers to become stable, but my Rock64 seems to do a good job now with my two QHY cameras (163M and 5L-II-M).
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Yes I have one of the new rpi4b and it’s superb with USB 3 and many other enhancements..BUT it does not yet work with any form of Ubuntu, only Rasbian....so you might want to wait... :)
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I actually use armbian on my Rock64. I am surprised to hear that Indi/Ekos won’t run on rasbian.
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KStars/INDI would run on Raspbian just fine, it's just a Debian distro. The difference is that there is no PPA for it, PPAs are an Ubuntu feature.
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I started this topic because I needed USB3 speed for my ZWO ASI178MC camera.
So now of course we have the Raspberry Pi 4, just after I bought a Rock64Pro.

My guess is it will not be long before all the various bits work on the RPI4, which leaves me between a Rock and a Pi place.

The rock64Pro seems very fast. I have now install 64GB of emmc memory and the wifi now works fine with the Comfast wifi dongle listed on the Armbian site.

If i had not got the Rock64Pro I would definitely have gone with the RPI4.
They look fairly similar in spec. Both have USB3, 4GB of Ram, two USB3 ports, 2 USB2 ports, Gigabit Ethernet.
The Pi is powered by Broadcom BCM2711, Quad core Cortex-A72 (ARM v8) 64-bit SoC @ 1.5GHz, while the Rock64 is a> Rockchip RK3399 Hexa-Core (dual ARM Cortex A72 and quad ARM Cortex A53) 64-Bit Processor with MALI T-860 Quad-Core GPU. So I think that means that the Rock might be a bit more powerful, but for running Indi/Ekos I doubt that matters.
The Rock has emmc memory, which might improve process speeds.

On a practical note the Rock64 is powered by a 12v supply, so plugs right into my existing 12v system. The Pi will need its special 5v 3a USBc supply. Finally the rock64 aluminium case is much prettier and of course looking good is everything.

The total support package around the PI is awesome and I can see no real reason why anyone would buy a Rock64Pro rather than a RPI4. Except of course is they thought it was a year away. So I will carry on with my Rock, at least until all the PI4 software is sorted and it may become a collectors item or a rather attractive paper weight.
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My rpi4 looks pretty good in its aluminium case...
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Starlight Xpress SXVR H18, SXVR M25c, Lodestar x2 Guide Camera
Pegasus Ultimate Hub V2 for all USB & Power
Pegasus focus motors on all scopes
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My lordy where did you get that case? It is nice looking.
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