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Live stacking methods?

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TESTED V 285 - OK PROBLEM not on test rig now on Obsys I5 8gb ssd Win 10.

Tried live stacking using files created by CCDCiel (on Windows) and Indiserver on a Gigabyte Ubuntu 64 bit connected to DSLR - so straight FITs

See attached screen dump - first file added then every files rejected - files ok via DSS/AT - not in same folder!

After renaming all files back - checked a couple with FITSAV no problem it loads them ok.

Also tried running normal stacking in ASTAP - (used just 3 files) same result first loaded then same error as above !

Strange
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Hello Stash,

If the files are from a DSLR, the hot pixels & noise could be a problem. You will see in solving, stacking and live stacking. It could be also the settings. Could dump two or three files somewhere and send me a link , so I can have a look myself?

A dark could help but let me first have a look.

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Just noted the exposure time:
EXPTIME = 60 / Total Exposure Time

This should be an easy image to process without a dark....
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Yes they are DSLR. I will try and get them off my Obsys system and put on Google and send you a link - may take a couple of days as I am trying to do a mod on my Obsys set up :-)
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@HAN

ok pm'd you with link to 3 files used on failure
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ok another quirky item - on Ubuntu 19.10 live stack file count is from 0 - should be from 1 - think Windows version starts at 1. "Adding file 0 etc etc" !
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In the last version I changed counting such that it start from 1. If the version are the same, they should behave the same., unless I made a mistake with copying the source files.

About you DSLR images which didn't stack. Where the 60 second images guided or unguided? Images with oval stars doesn't work.

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Thanks Stash,

Analysed the images.

Solving works fine with setting downsample x2 or auto x0
Stacking unbinned fails.
Stacking binned x2 works fine

Images are oversampled and contain hot pixels. Maybe I should at an internal step to binx2 for alignment since with OSC cameras, you don't want to bin them before de-bayering.

Let me add a internal binx2 step for alignment only so these images are processed smoothly. Maybe I should binx2 the result in one step.... In what resolution do you publish these images?

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Han,

I will check the version number again just in case but the Windows version is fine and stars from 1.

Guided or not - dont remember. I dont always guide but still require (and do ok) to stack.
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Didn't actually try Platesolving with ASTAP so cannot comment!

"What resolution do you publish these images" - sorry dont understand - the images were 5184 x 3456 as per default on the Canon 100d and if I upload the images t o local Astro group I just do a screen print output via PNG via Paint or equiv. :-)
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version number was 0.9.283 dated 2019-10-19 Linux Ubuntu 19.10 AMD 64bit

Edit going mad - it was Linux Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS(bionic) on this test rig - use so many versions I lost track - sorry :-(
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Hello Stash,

ASTAP version 0.9.286 just uploaded does stack your images reliable. I have implemented what was already longer considered, "to bin (if specified) for star alignment stacking". Stacking is also little faster since finding stars in a binned image goes fater then an unbinned imaged making more then up the time required for binning. The binning is default at 0 equal auto or can be at 2.

So live stacking (the topic) is working well now on your images.

About your images, the HFD/half flux diameter of the stars is about 12 pixels and the image height is 0.36 degrees. This is equivalent to 0.37 arcseconds/pixel. The seeing was then about 12*0.37 is about 4.4 arc seconds which is typical. For several reasons an average HFD of 2 or 3 is the best . The SNR is best while not loosing resolution due to undersampling. So your image could be binned x4 to improve the SNR with not losing resolution. Since it is a OSC/DSLR this can only be done after demosaicing. So these small pixels are not the perfect match for a 12" telescope unless binned later.

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