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How do I turn off automatic rotation after a meridian flip?

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I cross all the time, I just don’t change the rotation. This means the image flips but my filter wheel stays the same with respect to pier.
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You see, that's the problem I am trying to describe. On my system, after a flip, the rotator automatically rotates 180 degrees. I can't stop it. The button that used to prevent that is gone. This means I have to recalibrate my guider every time I cross the meridian.
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It's not suppose to do that. The only place where this could happen is Align module but the only way I can think this may happen if it happens to run load & slew port meridian flip.
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I'm currently working on a refactor of the rotator module. It's not as easy as I thought in the beginning to deal with all the concerned parameters an the inner logic of them. But I made some progress and the tests in the simulated environment are successful so far. Even some tests in our observatory went quite well. Unfortunately the weather doesn't allow more test runs since two weeks.

With the insights I got, I see two possibilities which lead to an activation of the rotator:
  1. A [Load&Slew] in the align tab does indeed move the rotator (as Jasem said). This is acrivated only by hand or once at the beginning of a sequence (FITS file entry)
  2. A checked "Save PA to Job" in the rotator control window. This activates the rotator ahead of each capture job.
As the first eventuality activates the rotator only once at the start of a sequence I suppose that Peter has checked "Save PA to Job" in the control window. This way it is possible that a job entry moves the rotator after a flip because the position angle is reported as rotated by 180°.

With the refactor I want to overcome all the inconsistencies in the rotator module that exists now. It still needs heavy testing, as I don't want to introduce new problems in this field. For those who are interested in here is the draft.
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hi guys,

after reading the whole thread, it is not still clear to me the current behaviour.
I'm running kstars 3.6.3. I'm planning to buy a rotator (falcon) but I don't want any automatic rotation after a meridian flip (so no need to take new flats). I usually perform a load and slew to center the object with a previous imaging session. If I'm using the job scheduler, I also usually use the "fits file" checkbox to perform the align with an image.
So, with this information, would ekos perform a rotation after a meridian flip? If so, is there any way to prevent it?

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Your rotator is in front of your OAG, filter wheel and camera. No need to redo flats after rotating. The whole optional train rotates, do flats are the same.
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I wouldn’t mind the rotation after a flip, if EKOS could reverse settings as needed so I do not need to recalibrate the autoguider.
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flats may work or not. Indeed, in my setup should work. I've calibrated lights with rotated flats successfully. However if the optical train (it is not my case) vignetting changes when rotating (it may happen), flats need to be rebuilt. Furthermore, although lens dust bunnies are not directly visible, they may affect the way the light spreads across the sensor.
These reasons probably do not apply to my setup, though. However, I think it is safer to avoid any rotation; hence my question.

Regarding the autoguding, I'm using phd2 and it takes into account any rotation and applies the corrections accordingly. That should not be an issue for me. If you are using internal guider, then I honestly don't know.

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I usually perform a load and slew to center the object with a previous imaging session. If I'm using the job scheduler, I also usually use the "fits file" checkbox to perform the align with an image.
So, with this information, would ekos perform a rotation after a meridian flip? If so, is there any way to prevent it?


Hi Miguel
Did you experience such a behaviour with a rotator?
AFAIK, there will be NO rotation after the flip, unless you have a checked "Save PA to Job". If you do not do this , the mentioned procedure should not not trigger any rotation. There could be some problems, if you are using a fits file taken on pierside WEST using on pierside EAST or vice versa. (BTW in my new approach of "Rotator Settings" takes into account this possibilty.)
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Toni, sorry for not being so clear. I don't have the rotator yet. I'm planning to buy it. I want to anticipate any possible issue.
I see by the way you also have a falcon, but I don't want to hijack the thread :)
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Tony, you mentioned that the "Save PA to Job" in the rotator control window activates the rotator ahead of each capture job.

I'm looking at my rotator control window.. and I have no such option.
What am I missing?
Peter

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Tony, you mentioned that the "Save PA to Job" in the rotator control window activates the rotator ahead of each capture job.
I'm looking at my rotator control window.. and I have no such option. What am I missing?


Sorry Peter, I mixed it up with a new approach I'm working on ( invent.kde.org/education/kstars/-/merge_requests/793 ). It's in fact "Add to Job" I was referring to. In some older versions of my approach I named it "Save PA to Job" to make things clearer.
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