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Major crashes out of nothing. What to do?

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Hey there.

Yesterday was a hard night. I was focusing my Moravian g2 8300 Color with my new off-axis-guider. Thats a pain anyway, since the moravian does not have liveview. The bigger problem was that after every second picture, the cam disconnected somehow, and forced the whole system to crash on and on. After 2 hours in the freezing cold, i managed to get it in focus...

But then the big problem occured. KStars LOST all of my profiles, and i am not able to make new ones. And the worst thing i just click on start ekos, and kstars crashes in the same moment...

So i had to give up yesterday...

Funny fact: Kstars via mac and remote does still work.

I downloaded the latest nightly then, but have the same fault...

The latest log file from todays test is there as screenshots.

Ideas?

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Niki
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5 years 2 months ago #34670
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Trying around a bit...

Uninstalled kstars and indi drivers via

<code>sudo apt-get purge kstars
sudo apt-get purge kstars-bleeding
sudo apt-get purge indi-full
sudo apt-get purge kstars bleeding gsc
</code>

There were no errors so i thought it should be all gone.

Then is reinstalled the whole thing but same fault.

Tried to start kstars from bash then, and when i hit start ekos button, this is printed in the bash. Maybe that helps?

I don´t get what happenend...

cheers
Niki
Skywatcher EQ6-R | Lacerta 10" Carbon-Newton | Lacerta MFoc Motorfocus | Moravian G2 8300 Color | Canon EOS 5DMarkIIIa | Lodestar X2 guiding cam | KSTARS 3.4.3. on my outdoor-Laptop with KDE-Neon/Plasma | KSTARS 3.4.3. on Remote-IMac with Catalina | KSTARS 3.4.3 on Remote-Macbook Air with Catalina
Last edit: 5 years 2 months ago by the.cakemaker.
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Perhaps you need to remove the .indi directory and the .local/share/kstars directories as well. Or maybe rename them so you don't lose your settings. Because it will mean that KStars starts from scratch and you will need to enter all your settings again. It may be worth a try though.
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Run KStars under gdb then you'll get useful information if it crashes.
gdb -ex run --args kstars

If it crashes, just type in bt to get the backtrace and then post it here.
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I removed the directories like wvreeven said.

No it does not crash anymore, but at startup it tells me it can not find indiriver directory.
Thats no surprise naturally, since i deleted this directory too.

I tried to reinstall it with
sudo apt-get install indi-full
sudo apt-get update

which happens without error, but the drivers are not there.

Maybe you can tell how to get them back?

I still can not understand why this happened. And why it is only affecting the local version of KStars.

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Niki
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Can you please post the complete error message so we know what you mean and we may try to help you?
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Sure!

Here it is.

The translation means:

The folder with the INDI-Drivers can not be found: /usr/share/indi
Check if the path in the setup-dialog from KStars is set right

So i think that the path is set right, as shown. But you remember that i erased it, like you told me.
So, YES, its not there. But how do i bring it back?
When i install indi-full it tells me its allready installed...

Iḿ sure its not a big deal, and i am not firm enough to repair this.
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Actually I told you to remove the .indi (note the dot at the start of the folder name) and the .local/share/kstars (note the dot again) directories, which are located in your home directory.

Looking back at the packages that you purged, you only removed the indi-full package, which is a so called meta-package which depends on all indi driver packages. This meta-package makes it easier to install all indi driver packages but since the system thinks they already are installed, reinstalling indi-full goes without problems.

You can see which driver packages are installed with

dpkg -l \*indi\*

and I am afraid that you need to reinstall all of them now.
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Before I forget, in order to be able to reinstall all the indi drivers you will need to purge them first.

And really important: I made a typo in the dpkg command! It should be

dpkg -l \*indi-\*

Note the dash symbol after the word indi.
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Thats what i get with this command:

You say your "afraid" that i have to reinstall them. Can you tell me how?

That can not be so hard, or am i wrong?

Why cant i just delete everything and reinstall it then?
Whats the big deal?
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Sorry, one more thing. Don’t delete those directories. Rename them, for instance like this

mv ~/.indi ~/.indi_old
mv ~/.local/share/kstars ~/.local/share/kstars_old

That way you can always revert that change and you don’t lose any valuable data, for instance the Tycho and USNO star databaes.
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Sorry if i may seem a bit confused, but i am.

How can i rename the folders? They are long gone...

i erased all indi_* with
sudo apt-get purge indi-*

The solution is as in the screenshot
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