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How do I get normal data in here?

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How do I get normal data in here? was created by Ron Kramer

I tried the sequence selection for the first time. It was kinda cool but not without questions and FAULTS.

Question (how do I add the exposures/filters and number exposures? (I did in the camera capture icon area) but when I save the sequence it doesn't save that?

Question 2 . How do I EDIT a sequence event when I want to correct an error?



I'll ask more tomorrow. But my one test fit showed this in the header. How do I get normal data?
Do these reading seem strange to you?

Also some problems. I did record it. (dome didn't always unpack before or mount didn't park after - lots of confusion there.
and dome NEVER CLOSES THE SHUTTER. That should be included in dome park.

Weather came in and that shut parked the dome. (left the shutter open) and didn't park the mount). I'll share the video tomorrow.
So whats weird about this datA? Temp was -20. and exposure should be 60. ?


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Replied by wvreeven on topic How do I get normal data in here?

About those values in the FITS headers, 6.000000E+01 == 6.0 * 10^1 (^ meaning to the power of) == 6.0 * 10 == 60. This is a scientific notation. You should be able to "convert" the other values and see for yourself that they are correct. This is just the way PixInsight displays the values. Not sure if this can be configured.

Then for your first question: you need to go to the capture tab and enter all exposures for the different filters there as you normally would. Then click the SAVE icon in the upper right corner. Then go to the sequence tab and load the saved capture file. As a matter of fact, the saved capture file contains XML data which are quite easy to edit by hand. I now keep a template file that I copy and then edit to let it have the correct number of exposures and exposure times, the target name and the directory to store the images to. Then I simply load that file.

Question 2: double click on a job in the sequence tab. This will load the values which you can then edit. Do not forget to click the save button afterwards. This is the most left button in the button row above the job list. Note that you cannot edit the sequence once it is started.


HTH, Wouter
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Replied by Ron Kramer on topic How do I get normal data in here?

Thanks (Pixinsight doesn't do this for my other fits files?) So Pixinsight is passing the data I suspect as Eko's is saving it?)

Not just the scientific values (aren't we AMATEUR astronomers? I don't do math, I'm an retired artist.) And it even has a debayer pattern used? (I used a mono camera).

I don't understand double click sequence tab? the string in the window that has numbered events?
I'll look for a video on using sequencer - I always jump in and do - first. = )

the save/load icons on this page (what are they mouse over does not work) it seems the left one is LOAD, middle one? and right one seems to be a save.
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Replied by wvreeven on topic How do I get normal data in here?

I am not sure if PixInsight displays the values as they are stored in the FITS header or does a conversion itself. I guess it does a conversion but I am not sure.

For the other two new questions, sorry I don’t have time to create screenshots now. Perhaps tomorrow.


Clear skies, Wouter
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Replied by maxer on topic How do I get normal data in here?

The fits header is in the beginning of the file as text so just use the command in terminal : less NameOfFITSfile.fits
When I do a conversion of 6.000000E+01 I think of that like E+01 tells me to move the decimal point one step to the right so the result will be 60.00000E+00 and that will result in 60.00 seconds of exposure.

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Replied by Ron Kramer on topic How do I get normal data in here?

thanks - while I could see I could move the decimal point... my "wish" is to get the proper data in my fits file. (not have to convert it). And debayer?
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Replied by wvreeven on topic How do I get normal data in here?

Once more, this is a display issue in PixInsight so you should ask the question there. Admittedly, the FITS header of one of my images contains

EXPTIME = 9.000000E+01 / Total Exposure Time (s)

This is taken from the FITS file itself since the FITS header is plain tekst. FITS is a scientific file format that was developed for scientists. As it turns out, it was decided in 1989 that all values should be floating point values. See

fits.gsfc.nasa.gov/fp89.txt

So, Ekos is doing the right thing....


Cheers, Wouter
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Replied by wvreeven on topic How do I get normal data in here?

By the way, here is the FITS header of one of the Luminance images of my ASI1600MM-C Pro camera. As you can see there is no Bayer info in it. Not sure why it shows up in your FITS images.

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Replied by wvreeven on topic How do I get normal data in here?

Ron Kramer wrote: I don't understand double click sequence tab? the string in the window that has numbered events?
I'll look for a video on using sequencer - I always jump in and do - first. = )

the save/load icons on this page (what are they mouse over does not work) it seems the left one is LOAD, middle one? and right one seems to be a save.


What I meant is this. First you need to create a capture file that you can load in the sequence tab. To do so, go to the capture tab and specify exactly the images you want to take with the proper exposure times, filters etc like you would if you weren't using a sequence. Confusingly enough you are creating a sequence here as well but this is just a sequence of images which later, in the sequence tab, is referred to as a job. Then click the save button, which I have highlighted in this screenshot. For simplicity's sake I have only created one image sequence using the simulators but in the real world it works exactly like this. Of course you can create multiple sequences for different targets etc. The possibilities are virtually endless here.



Next go to the sequence tab and add the jobs for the targets you'd like to image. As you can see I created a job for NGC 2903 and another job for M 64.



Please notice that the M 64 job is selected. Now suppose that I want to EDIT the job properties of NGC 2903. To do so I double click on that job and it will be loaded. Several things happen. First of all the target is set to NGC 2903 again. Also all other related configuration options, like the Steps (Track, Focus, Align, Guide), the Job Startup Conditions and Job Constraints get loaded. This isn't readily visible in the screenshots because I didn't change any but trust me, this is happening. The most important thing is that the + button changes! This is what I meant and as you can see it is not very difficult to reproduce this so I suggest you do so before actually planning jobs which you potentially need to change so you get familiar with how this works. For clarity I have highlighted the button that changed.



Please let us know if you have more questions about this all.


Clear skies, Wouter
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Replied by PDB on topic How do I get normal data in here?

Hi Wouter,

If I read that doc it looks as it describes the image data in floating point, not the headers. (Which is important because not all systems use same binary representation of data)

For the headers it is stated in anothor document that values like FOCAL Length, Exposure should be real numbers (shown as string) So nothing prohibits to show this as 620.0 instead of 6.20E+02

You are right it is correct, and at least EKOS is doing it consistent, but I don't think it is required to do it like this.

(Seen worse things in the headers: wrong telescope info, wrong focal length, hope these are all corrected, that is more important)

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Replied by wvreeven on topic How do I get normal data in here?

Hi Paul,

Thanks very much for correcting me! Indeed, that document is about the image data, not the headers. As a matter of fact, the FITS standard

archive.stsci.edu/fits/fits_standard/

allows for integer values (section 5.2) like "60" and real numbers (section 5.3) like "6E1" or "6.0E1". I am making an assumption here, but it looks to me like Ekos is using real values everywhere since this is determined by the hardware (both my Canon camera and my ASI1600MM-C Pro camera don't always exactly take exposures of 60 seconds but occasionally for example 59.99999 sec or 60.0001 sec) so it is safer to store real values instead of integers since the latter would lead to loss of precision.


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Replied by Ron Kramer on topic How do I get normal data in here?

The forum area says post your wish list.

It is my wish that I can look at fits headers and get the data I want quick and easily without jumping through hoops.

It's still on my wish list that I could read fits data as easily as I do on other fits file capture programs.
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Baader F2 HS NB filters, Lodestar X2 guide camera / OAG - ZWO 290mm mini
ZWO ASI1600MM Pro / ASI174M (solar) / ASI094MC
NEXDome, CLoudwatcher, AVX mount/ASIair and Stellarmate

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