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AstroPi3 Scripts revised

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I thought you said everything built and installed ok? Did you test it at home? Do you have a ZWO 120 or 224? I actually tried it with both of those after building and they worked fine.
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Replied by Avocette on topic AstroPi3 Scripts revised

Always sorry when a clear night’s imaging is lost for some ‘technical’ reason. Presently here waiting for a clear night to try out the system live rather than a bunch of indoor rehearsals!
Currently running KStars/Ekos/Indi on two Raspberry Pi 4Bs 4GByte under Raspberry Pi OS thanks to Astroberry
Two mounts, two Fracs, a Newt and a Mak and a couple of OSC cameras.
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Replied by Avocette on topic AstroPi3 Scripts revised

Hi Rob, I’ve now used your Raspbian script on a fresh installation on my RPi3B+ and all seems to be working correctly (indoors) so far. The script took quite a bit longer to run through, but subjectively the RPi4 and 3B+ installations ‘feel’ remarkably similar. I’m assuming that the most obvious difference between the two will be in the speed of storage of images with the 4 having better storage bandwidth, but would you anticipate any other differences in practical use?
I was until now a very satisfied Astroberry user, but am finding the WiFi hotspot/WLAN switching very convenient in your installation, and would rather stick to Raspbian on both devices if there’s no disadvantage. Any thoughts?
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That is good to know that it works on Raspbbian on the 3b+ as well. Yes I would expect the PI4 to be much faster. The speed though, mainly comes into play during the installation. For most imaging applications, you will be just fine on the 3b+ or even the 3b, since most of the time when imaging is spent waiting for images. Yes the file open/save/transfer speed will be better on the Pi4, but these are often more limited by wifi and I don't think it will be too big of a bottleneck. I am planning to run some tests myself to see how big of an impact it has, but I haven't done it yet.

I personally prefer using ubuntu -MATE for a Pi 3B or 3B+ rather than Raspbian (at least so far), although I did manage to set up the new script so it works a lot like my ubuntu-mate script. The biggest reason I prefer Ubuntu is its compatibility with the PPAs, so that you can more quickly install and set things up and its much much faster to update. If you compare running the new raspbian script to the ubuntu mate script on the same 3b+, I bet you will find the mate script goes much faster since it doesn't have to build software. If you like the way that the new script sets up raspbian and an astro imaging platform, then you probably will like how it sets up with ubuntu mate as well. I tried to make them very similar.
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Replied by Michael on topic AstroPi3 Scripts revised

My Guider is a 120 but my imaging camera is a 1600 cooled mono. Didn't get to try guiding since the 1600 connected perfectly but didn't seem to respond.
I also prefer Ubuntu Mate but unfortunately, it is not available for RP4 jet.
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Replied by Hy Murveit on topic AstroPi3 Scripts revised

I'm not saying that you can't image on the 3b+, I did for the last 6 months and it was fine, but I have to say that, for me, the RPi 4 for imaging is so much faster, I couldn't go back to a 3b+.
Differences:
- image download speed (usb3) is much quicker (camera to sdcard)
- writing from sdcard to usbstick (usb3) is quicker, though, I just ordered a fast usb card,
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MU8TZRV/ref...01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
and will try to write from camera directly to that, skipping a step.
- general responsiveness to the linux windowing environment is much better
- I think on my Pi3b+, PHD2 would occasionally max-out the cpu, causing occasional freezing. Not too often, but noticeable
- I'll bet the networking (e.g. running VNC and doing the encoding to send the screen image across the network) is quicker too (just saying, no real measurements) making everything feel much more snappy
...

My entire stack runs on the Raspberry Pi, and I just use a laptop for the VNC monitor/keyboard/mouse.
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AP1100 & Orion Atlas Pro, WO/ZS105 w/Moonlight V2 focus, GSO RC10 w/RSF focus
ZWO ASI1600, Astronomik Filters, ST80, QHY 5L-IIm.
KStars/Ekos/Indi on NUC10 & RPi4 w/SSD -- Ubuntu
Projects: Greedy Scheduler, Terrain, Polar Align, Analyze, Linear Focuser, SEP MultiStar & GPG Guide, FITS autostretch.
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Ok I messed around with the networking issue for awhile yesterday. I tried for a number of hours yesterday to get it working with /etc/network/interfaces, but it didn't want to work. Adding the static IP meant that it needed an ethernet connection on boot to work with DHCP. Hot plugging didn't work with the static link local IP address.

Today, I tried something different. I tried a network manager solution. Since I was installing network manager anyway and since it is much more configurable, I was able to do a lot more with it. I added two profiles to network manager, one for DHCP Ethernet and one for Link Local Ethernet using the static IP. I gave the DHCP more priority so it tries to connect first to DHCP any time a cable is plugged in, and when that fails a couple of times with a limit of 5 seconds per time, it will switch instead to the other profile and offer a static Link Local address for the observing field. This solution is better because it now shows the network traffic and IP address properly no matter which profile you are connected with. It is totally automatic and switches back and forth depending on how you are connected. And since it is all done with network manager, the user can see and manage it in the GUI if desired. Plus it seems more reliable so far as well!

Please test this! You can just re-run whichever setup script you used and it will change to the new settings. I tested this on both Raspbian and Ubuntu-MATE so far and it works well for each.
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Replied by AstroNerd on topic AstroPi3 Scripts revised

It works for me, but as before when it had a static IP being set it knocks off the internet on any WiFi connection, I realise that this won’t matter in the field, but I sometimes use a cable at home for a good connection and keep the WiFi connected to my home WiFi for either internet or astrometry solving..
Not sure why this happens, but as soon as I disable the static IP on eth0 the internet on WiFi then returns...

I got the 4K working but through a completely different method as none of the options you suggested worked..there is a setting in raspi-config on the rpi4 for using 4K 60hz mode, and for some reason when enabled it’s allowed the 4K resolution to come back into the menu... :)
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Replied by AstroNerd on topic AstroPi3 Scripts revised

Here is a picture of your conkyrc file after I used the script, as you can see I have changed the xftfont123 size to 12, and it makes no difference at all, in fact no matter what size I put here it makes no difference to the conky screen, nor do any other settings I change...and on my 4k monitor this is much too small...
Any ideas...
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Takahashi FSQ85, FS60cb & Meade 8” SCT (de-forked)
Starlight Xpress SXVR H18, SXVR M25c, Lodestar x2 Guide Camera
Pegasus Ultimate Hub V2 for all USB & Power
Pegasus focus motors on all scopes
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Yes as I mentioned before if you look down below that in the settings there are a few places where it says “font Ariel bold size=10” and stuff like that. That would need to be changed too
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Replied by AstroNerd on topic AstroPi3 Scripts revised

Yep, have tried all that, it makes no difference to what you see on the screen...not sure if,it’s something to do with having a 4k monitor, but nothing alters anything you see.. :)
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Starlight Xpress SXVR H18, SXVR M25c, Lodestar x2 Guide Camera
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Pegasus focus motors on all scopes
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There this topic is about networking i hoop i can add this question this topic. I use rasp Pi 3b i discoverd something strang i think it due to my network setting

The wifi of the RP is configured as Wifi AP
And via USB i have USB Wifi dongel connecting to my local network.

When capturing when network connection of my client PC is via the AP downloading canon raw file takes about 13 secs reasonable, but via the dongel it takes ages so minutes.

What did i missed in the configuration in the Both IP stacks


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