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INDI Library v2.0.6 is Released (02 Feb 2024)

Bi-monthly release with minor bug fixes and improvements

Support for Orion StarShoot G3 CCD

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Hi,
I own a Brightstar Mammut Lyuba L429 which ressembles very much the Starshoot G3 from ORION, and is also based on the AVR32 UC3 chip from AMTEL. I'm looking for an INDI driver for this camera since I can only use it on windows for the time being (ASCOM driver works fine), and I would like to move to Linux (Rapbian).
Did you manage to build you driver eventually ? That would be the last chance I have to make ma camera work on linux :)
Enjoy the stars,
Emmanuel
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No, I'm afraid I didn't end up doing anything towards getting the linux driver going. I was able to get a windows xp virtual machine set up and have just been using that for the camera control. It's not ideal and INDI control would be a lot nicer, but just ended up going the "hacky" windows route.
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Thanks for the update. Too bad this driver does not exist (and will probably never will), that's the kind of thing that limit the advantage of INDI over widespread ASCOM...
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Ben I know this is a long time after your comment but I'm wondering if you are still interested in providing assistance in working through the process of sorting a driver of the Orion G3? I've worked through the steps to get the drivers loaded on a Win 10 VirtualBox on a Ubuntu PC. I've managed to fire up the Orion Camera Studio and get different useless images out of the camera by exposing it to different light levels.
The device details is lsusb didn't change other than an incrementing Device no each time it's plugged back in.
Bus 002 Device 021: ID 07ee:0502 Torex Retail (formerly Logware) I tried sometime back to do the wireshark thing but was trying to do it all on windows. I'll revist that on Linux and see what I can capture.
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I have just aquired an Orion StarShoot G3 color CCD camera and been using astroberry so would like an Indi driver for it.  I have done some C/C++ embedded coding in the past and can get assistance from my son who runs a small business specialising in embedded software development.  Can I help with this? 
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This camera is already supported in INDI.
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Hi Jasem. I am using Astroberry. Plugged the Starshoot G3 color it into an available USB slot but Indi reported it could not find it? I am selecting the starshootG listed under Orion cameras. Its not listed exactly as a Starshoot G3 color. I know there is a mono version and read somewhere there's an older model of a Starshoot camera so assumed this particular model wasn't supported. Attached is the logfile. Is there anything else I can log or test? Regards David
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Hi David,
I've not seen anybody ever report that they were successful in using the StarShoot G3 camera with INDI. I strongly suspect that the starshootg driver doesn't support this camera and actually supports the older StarShoot cameras (like the V2). The udev rules associated with the starshootg driver show a vendor ID that doesn't match the vendor ID of the G3. That's not conclusive, but would support the idea. In any case, this is the problem with these closed-source libraries...we don't really know what they are supposed to support.

About a year ago Bob Stephens and I set out to reverse engineer the Starshoot G3 and write an INDI driver for it. It kind of fizzled once we found out about the starshootg driver. However, like you, Bob was not able to get the starshootg driver to work...which would make sense if the G3 wasn't actually supported.

If you are interested, we could pick back up on the work that we already started. We had reverse engineered enough of the protocol and have a driver hacked together, but it seems to crash when attempting a capture. I don't actually have a G3 camera, but am happy to help where I can. If this sounds appealing, maybe you could resume the following thread: indilib.org/forum/ccds-dslrs/7276-orion-...-g3-ccd.html?start=0

Thanks,
Ben
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One minor clarification... I looked at the starshootg driver and it's for the current generation of Orion StarShoot cameras (like the G26, G10, Mini). These are, of course, just rebranded Touptek cameras.
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Hi Ben. I failed to mention, but this does explain why after failing to start the driver a confusing second message is generated saying something like unable to find a Touptek device. I guess a common driver is used for several camera types and the specific camera type is not passed to the code where the failure is handled? This problem also crashes Indi and not handled gracefully. When selecting the camera it just says Starshoot G.  As G3 is not supported it would be better if supported camera types was more specific.
Anyway question is, is it worth finishing off the Orion G3 development or just go and buy a ZWO?
This is another topic but does affect the decision to develop a G3 driver. I have not used the Ekos FITS viewer with a colour camera. I suspect the G3 may have an unusual Bayer Matrix only because to capture a colour image I haven't found any imaging software that can convert the RAW image correctly apart from Orion Camera Studio. I thick the raw image may be YCbCr but read reports CMYG, 4 x 4 and an offset of 0,4 works. Not got to the bottom of this yet.
In support of Indi and Astroberry I am willing to help finish off the development.
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Good summary Ben. I’ve been too distracted by other things but would like to have the G3 as an option. Happy to try and pick this up again although some bits might take a while.

Bob
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Sorry, you guys are correct. The StarshootG drivers are for the new generation Orion cameras only. It doesn't appear there are any drivers from the older generation cameras.
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